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From: [e-mail] (aapeli)
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Subject: Q: winvn

I'm using winvn version 0.90.5 and win 3.11. The problem occurs
when I try to compose new mail while reading article. For some
reason winvn always opens msmail-window. It is not suitable for
my purposes, because I'd like to send mail using Eudora.

How  can I configure winvn so that it uses Eudora instead of
msmail?

-Aapeli-

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From [e-mail] Fri May  2 17:20:20 1994
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From: [e-mail] (David Joyner)
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Subject: Re: WSASetBlockingHook()

A couple of messages ago, I wrote:

: Does anyone know of any caveats associated with WSASetBlockingHook?
: I'm trying to install my own blocking hook which doesn't check the
: message queue to avoid returning controll to the application during
: blocking socket calls.  It looks like my blocking hook is never being
: called.

: I'm using Novell LWP 4.1.  If anyone has suggestions, I'd like to hear
: them.

I figured out why my blocking hook is not being called.  After calling
WSAStartup() and WSASetBlockingHook(), I make some calls to the
database routines (getservbyname, gethostbyname) before creating a
socket.

>From what I can tell, the getXbyY routines install their own blocking
hook.  To make things worse, after the database operation is complete,
they do not remove the installed hooks (or replace the one that was
previously installed).

I find it hard to believe that this type of behaviour conforms to the
WinSock spec, but I am not an expert on such matters.

--
David Joyner ([e-mail])    | Phone: [phone]
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From [e-mail] Tue May  3 01:32:22 1994
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Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 12:50:32
From: [e-mail] (Chris Rowley)
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Subject: New Telnet/MUDClient Troubles

Thanks to everyone who has commented and/or offered help in my writing Telnet
and MUD client software for WinSock.

I have hit a snag though: I am no C++ developer, I specialize in wrapping
interfaces around objects. In this case I had chosen Distinct's TCP/IP Visual
Edition .VBX for Visual Basic. I plunked down my $200 and figured that I could
write and distribute software with at least run-time support (making outside
contributors need to buy the product to work on it). I thought at the very
least I'd have something users could benefit from and comment on.

Lo and behold, however, Distinct does not grant royalty free distribution of
their tools. Note that of the 15 VBX packages I own, DISTINCT IS THE ONLY
CMPANY NOT TO ALLOW DISTRIBUTION OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. Essesntially, THE
PRODUCT IS WORTHLESS to anyone who doesn't just do in-house development. I
couldn't even develop something for sale without requiring the end-users to
purchase Distinct's package. Top this off with the fact that Distinct's VBXs
require multiple DLL's as well as a shell application, I wasn't envious of
releasing an essentially complete program anyway.

Yes, I finished the VT-100/Dull ANSI with scrollback everyone seemed to want.
I'm talking ALL visual basic code, so anyone could tweak it. I wrote a nice
little address book, tabbed dialog boxes, etc. All that is now missing is the
winsock routines.

There is a WINSOCK.VB file floating around with some of the winsock declares.
It does not, however, support the data structures or calls regrading database
functions. This renders it useless, because how else does one look up internet
addresses?

There is a nice public domain winsock VBX called VBWSK by Brian Syme. However,
it has one little nasty problem: it wants to operate with an end-of-line
character (such as CR/LF). While the help file makes it seem like a null EOL
is possible, that does not work, data is never returned, and thus many Telnet
apps would be impossible to support (mostly all those lovely full-screen ones
everyone wanted the VT-100 stuff for).

Basically, it boils down to this: I would like to have a group,
users-helping-users, public domain, all source code included Telnet and MUD
Client product out there today, but in Visual Basic this appears nigh
impossible at the moment and I don't have the time nor accumen to get C++
skills in the space of days.

If anyone has a suggestion, let me know.

As for Distinct, I still haven't heard back from them regarding a return
policy. Obviously the readers of Visual Basic Programmer's Journal don't
develop commercial products or they would never have named an otherwise
excellent product great. It can't be great if no one can use it's results.
     Chris
From [e-mail] Sat Apr 30 06:44:07 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Sargon)
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Subject: site b61503.student.cwru.edu

well for all of you out there that have frequneted my ftp site for winsock
materials i am afraid to repert that the site is going down temporarily. due
to a bug found in the software i am using i am temporarily taking down the
site till alun fixes the prob. also as i am moving for the summer and the
house i will be in is not yet installed with a fiberoptic line to the net i
will be unable to access the net(except e-mail) and thus the site will be
down. when the net gets installed (hopefully the middle of the summer but
possible as late as the end of it) my site will go back up and i will post the
new site ip address on this usenet group. thanks to all who used and
contributed to my site.  i hope to have it back up soon.

-Sargon                                  Ftp for windows and winsock files
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                     "The only perfect science is hindsight."
From [e-mail] Wed Apr 30 07:28:35 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Craig Larsen)
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Subject: Winsock Application FAQ/List !


You may obtain the latest revision of the Winsock Application FAQ/List by
sending email to:

                              [e-mail]

                              Subject: FAQ


This will answer all basic "Where may I find ..." questions.

Craig Larsen
From [e-mail] Sat May  3 01:43:39 1994
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From: [e-mail] (jnlin)
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Subject: Re: WHERE TO FIND THE VXDBETA WITH TELNET...

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael A. Grassi) says:
>
>WOW!!!  I have never gotten so many responses to a post before!!  In case you
>missed it, I think we've hit on a nice, solid telnet for Winsock...it is the
>telnet.exe file from Microsoft's TCP/IP VxDBeta.  This package is meant to be
>used as a TCP/IP transport for WfWG, but I like Trumpet Winsock better.  In
>playing around with some stuff though, I accidentally started the telnet.exe
>file, and it worked with Trumpet Winsock (this is to be expected...it is
>Winosck 1.1 compliant).  If you want to check it out, the zip file is up for
>ftp at ftp.microsoft.com in the /peropsys/wfw/tcpip/vxdbeta directory...I
>forget exactly what the zip file is called, but I think there are only two
>files in that dir....get the newer one.  If you already have a Winsock stack
>running, you can use the ftp.exe and telnet.exe files alone.  The ftp.exe is a
>simple command thing, and the telnet.exe is stable, and remembers quite a few
>sites.  Good luck with it!!!
>

I just got the Microsoft TCP/IP VxDBeta 2 and run the telnet and ftp. There's
a problem of the telnet. Why it always redraws the display window every time
I click the mouse in it?

Lin Jyun-Naih

>Mike
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>
>P.S.  If MS has any problems with their apps being used with another TCP/IP
>stack, please let us know!!!!
>
From [e-mail] Fri May  2 20:17:46 1994
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Subject: Re: I'd PAY for a good news reader

Use toggle (alt-t?) under Articles to mark a single article as read.
From [e-mail] Tue May  3 03:02:26 1994
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Subject: goslip

I have set this program up but I cannot when I try to dial it responds with
"Error: it appears that an application already has control of the port" I get
this message even when no other applications are running.
any suggestions?
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Varga)
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Subject: WINVNEWS Reader Message-ID: posting problem

I see many folks out there looking for a nice Windows news reader.  I'm using
WinVNews ftp'd from somewhere, I don't remember.  I love it except for one
small problem that I haven't yet figured out.  It will not right a "Message-ID:"
in the header when I try to post or mail.  Sam Rushing at NASA, (one of the
developers of this fine, fine tool), tells me that my nntp server should assign
the Message ID, but my system admin tells me that the news reader should
do that.  Everyone else here at our facility uses the Trumpet News Reader
and apparently they don't have this problem.  As you can see, I can manually
add the Message ID in the header to make it work.  Anybody have a suggestion?

Thank you in advance...

Jack Varga
Golden, Colorado
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From [e-mail] Tue May  3 03:02:50 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Domingo Martinez-Castilla)
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Subject: Winsock over Token Ring Novell Netware 3.1x, How?


(Flame cover:  I do know this may be a FAQ, but I just got the newest version
of the alt.winsock FAQ from sunsite and there is nothing specific on this.  I
have read before over this problem, but I did not pay attention.)

Please, if there is any documents explaining this issue, give me pointers to
locate it.  Otherwise, I will write down my experiences in a mini-FAQ, or
perhaps add them to the current Winsock FAQ.  I am currently running Winsocks
with very few problems, but not through any LAN.

Now the setup,

We have a LAN running Netware 3.12 (I believe) over a token ring system.
They, of course, want all the goodies that come with Winsock, but we do not
know how to face the issue.  (I have everything running OK for me, and do not
know anything about LANs, but I have been summoned to help, anyway).  I do
know that this is possible, but I need to know more.

Needs:

1. Sample configuration used by somebody with the same setup, both at the
server's and the user's sides.  Basically, I am little baffled on where to put
what.  I assume the Winsock.dll will go at the user's, but what about the
TCPIP part?

2. I understand there is a shim that has to go before the TCPIP to simulate
packets through the token-ring system.   Where do I get it?  Does Novell have
one?

3. Should I use *only* the Novell Winsockets, or can I go with, say, the
popular Trumpet Winsock?

Questions:
1. Will they need IP numbers for each user, or is it enough with the one
assigned to the server?  I hope not!

2. How many "sockets" can Winsocks handle effectively, especially if only one
Winsocks will have to be shared by several people?

Well, I hope you get the idea.  If a FAQ, please mail me.  Otherwise, post or
mail.

Thank you.

Domingo Martinez